Mention to anyone that you have written a novel and there are two things they invariably ask: what’s it about and has it been published? But, just as no one really wants to hear about your bunions when they politely enquire ‘How are you?’, neither do they want to know the details of your book. Especially when you go on to admit that it’s unpublished. At that point their eyes feel free to glaze over. Because to most people an unpublished book is not really a book at all.
Well, I have a confession to make. I have written not one but four unpublished novels. The pessimists among you may well regard that as an unmitigated failure. I prefer the more optimistic view. Many highly successful novelists have suffered more than their fair share of rejection before hitting the big time. James Herriot, John Grisham and even JK Rowling were all turned down by a great many publishers before someone somewhere spotted that they could be on to a winning formula. What these writers have in common is that they kept on sending their work out until it was accepted.
That’s why I choose not to call my novels unpublished, they just haven’t been published yet. And, of course, the fact I have completed four novels is proof that I can do it, that I have the staying power to see the job through to the end. And that’s not failure in my book.
A year spent working on a novel is not a wasted year, it’s a year of turning what begins as a vague idea into a big fat manuscript to be proud of, learning and developing the craft as you go. Every damning criticism (ouch!) or helpful comment received from an agent or publisher who turns you down helps to guide your work towards improvement… and hopefully finding the right home. So, let me tell you about my four novels to date. Now, now, keep your eyes open! I promise to be brief.
Book One was written after its first 150 words won the Mail on Sunday’s Best Opening to a Novel competition. As a result, two literary agents approached me. Yes, they approached me. That was all the encouragement I needed to finish the book. One of the agents had faith in it and sent it out to 16 publishing houses, one of which took it through several reading stages – before saying no. My agent did all she could but no deal. Some people might have given up at that point, but I’d come close enough to believe I could do it next time. Hence Book Two.
The trouble with Book Two was my agent didn’t like it. If she couldn’t sell Book One, which she did like, then she wasn’t going to waste time on one she didn’t. I tried a few publishers direct, but it seemed the agent was right, so I decided to write that one off to experience and embarked on Book Three.
By now, life was getting in the way. Children, work and a shrinking amount of motivation slowed me down, so I turned my attention towards short story writing. Only a few days devoted to each project and the results – seeing my work in print and earning a few pounds – were much more immediate, and a great confidence booster. Book Three was eventually finished, but my agent had lost interest by now (probably because I had cost her money!) and I couldn’t get another to take me on. I was, after all, just another unknown and (as yet) unpublished author. The publishers I approached were slow to respond and many had no interest in anything that had not come via an agent. The old chicken and egg situation.
And so to Book Four. It’s gained a lot from all the earlier practice. And, what’s more, now it’s finished I like it. And if I still like it, having lived with it in my head and on the computer screen for a couple of years, and having read it from start to finish almost as many times as I’ve read Spot Bakes a Cake (a favourite among the children I work with, I hasten to add), then hopefully someone else will like it too.
So, here’s the plan. This time, I’m going all out to get a publishing deal. I’m not going to self-publish – I want someone to pay me, not me to pay them. I want to see my book on the shelves (and in the window) at Waterstones, I want to see it in libraries and casually dropped into supermarket trolleys alongside the sliced bread and loo rolls… and to spot someone reading a copy on the train.
And I’m going to get as much help as I can from industry experts and fellow writers. I’m going to ask editors and agents to look at it and tell me the honest truth. I’m going to ask publishers why they have rejected it – or didn’t even read it. And because getting a novel accepted involves nail-biting weeks or months of waiting, I’m also making a start on writing Book Five…
But I’m not sure I can do all this on my own. So, if you are planning, writing, or polishing a novel ready to drop it into a jiffy bag, with the same hope as me – of finding an agent, attracting a publisher, seeing your book in print and maybe even giving up the day job – let me know. Let’s share our experiences, our disappointments and our dreams. Between us, with hard work and determination, perhaps we might just get what we wish for.
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Last year Writers' Forum readers followed Vivien Hampshire as she earned enough money from writing sales to fund a dream holiday to Barbados. Now she has set herself an even greater challenge - to get a book publishing deal. You can follow her progress in the magazine each month and then use this blog to comment on her writing and to offer support and advice.
Tuesday, 2 December 2008
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Dear, Viv;
I only have 2 pages of a novel written, but so far I like it, and I like that I'm writing again, so after reading this entry, not only am I positive that you'll get your break, but I'm even more so about the fact that I will be reading along with you while you do it.
Good Luck,
Sincerely, Ohna
Thanks Ohna
I'm glad the column is already inspiring you and that you intend to keep reading it! Thanks for your encouragement. Best of luck with your own novel. Two pages is a start, and every great enterprise has to start somewhere. From acorn to oak tree! Viv
I have written a novel and am half way through the second but have yet to send them to anyone. They're mine! I love them and that should be enough!
Obviously, I am wrong. Obviously, I yearn for the book-by-the-bread-in-the-trolley experience too but the endless rejections before I reach that point are putting me off rather. It feels as if I need to muster untold bucketloads of strength to carry me through if I get pelted with rotten egg rejections: I know my books are fab and I need to be strong enough to defend them but it's a pant-bricking thing to contemplate.
In fact, I had planned to send my first book off today but instead I am searching through blogs trying to find reasons to put off the dreaded moment. The covering letter is the worst bit. Everything I write comes out wrong. Do you find it tricky to write the letters? Trying to find the right tone, where I sound confident but not pushy and worthy without being desperate is doing my head in. Writing the novel was a doddle but the letter...words fail me...literally. Any words of wisdom?
Best wishes and best of luck,
R.W.
Hello R.W.
I'm from Canada and have written a series of four science fiction novels. My problem is the more I learn, the less I feel I know. I'm hoping I plateau soon but if I don't, I'm having fun learning. I found this site that might help you...good luck. :)
http://www.wordsmitten.com/coverletter.html
Is this a sickness, an obsession? Good luck with that.
This is Kevin from Canada again and I found this site. IT has 100 critiqued cover letters and seems quite useful.
Oh, and not a sickness. It's just an option to watching too much TV.
Again, good luck...
http://misssnark.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_misssnark_archive.html#113615544692769930
Kevin
Thank you so much for that. I actually only just checked back on here and, unfortunately, have already sent off my manuscript for the first time. Well... maybe fortunately... depends whether it is published or not. I am mindful that this is Vivien's blog not mine, so rather than block up her blog with my own updates, I've put one up myself which I'll update with my own bits of news if you want to check it out.
R.W.
Sorry - thought the address would show - you need to click on R.W. or cut and paste:
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com/
Thanks again.
Good luck Vivien!
Vivien,
Best of luck with LOSING LUCY and your book-deal challenge.
I have at last finished the first draft of a science-fiction novel aimed at teenagers. This has taken me about three years and I have altered (hopefully improved) several elements of the story as I have gone along. This now means that some characters / relationships at the end no longer match the beginning. Overall I am pleased with the story but now face a lot of re-writing. Can you, or any readers of this blog, offer any help or advice on the best way to go about this?
Rob N.
Hi Rob. There is no quick fix, I'm afraid. Rewriting is an essential part of the process, and changes in characters from when you first imagined them to the end of your story are inevitable as they have grown and developed on the page. The longer a book has taken to write, the more likely it is that you will have come up with more ideas and more changes as time has passed. That can only be a good thing! Come on, you readers out there, give Rob some tips - and thanks to all who have been sending me compliments, comments and luck - it's all helping with the column and the book. Look out for instalment two in February's WF, in which I set out my step by step plan to start improving and rewriting my own novel - with some expert help and advice. Please keep your commemts coming.
Hi Viv
I like the idea of Writers-forum following your progress in writing a novel.
I'm writing one too - my first!
I look forward to following you with yours as it might give me the motivation to keep going!
I started mine a year ago and am still on chapter one. Work and children seem to take up most of my time and energy. But I dragged it out recently and felt it wasn't quite right so started again and now it seems to be flowing much better - well, I hope so anyway!
Lynne
Good luck, Lynne. Work and kids are always the main culprits - or excuses?? Luckily I only work part-time now and spend much more time on my writing, and the kids are away at uni. Glad you are back on track. It's not easy, but it's very rewarding and great fun creating people and plots. Keep reading the column, and the blog, and let's do it together!
Good luck, Viv. I've been putting off writing a novel, thinking I'll fail. I'm making my new year resolutions list later today, so I'm glad I read your blog first. Resolution number 1: Make a start on that novel. I'll look out for Writer's Forum mag next time I'm in town, as well. Happy New Year to you!
Bea
Hi Viv,
I loved reading about you in Writers Forum and the idea that as a group of people in the same boat we could help each other out.
My book has been out to 3 agents already and even though they all said really nice things about it they declined to take it or me on. Can't have been that good then could it? I have decided that this year I am going to give it another edit and a final polish before risking it out there in the big wide world again.
Cheers
GBW
Dear Vivian,
I think you and I are living in a parallel universe. You are writing my story. After years of sending books to agents I too turned my MS into a book using Daily Mail tokens. I now write articles with some success, but my heart is in writing novels for children, to date have written 7. I even sent a MS to Hilary Johnson's Authors' Advisory Service who made me aware that I did have some talent, I just wish agents and publishers shared the same views. I'm on the short list of 'Writers Forum Children's Book Competition' and am dreading the e-mail which will tell me I lost. But being on the short list is brilliant I hope they take ages to come to a conclusion. Like millions of others I've found getting a novel published is more difficult than climbing Everest or (like trying to nail jelly to the wall, a quote by Marian Keyes on a totally different subject) but seems very apt.
So far I've found the beginning of 'Losing Lucy' riveting and am eager to read on. What a great idea for a column, almost everyone who reads it will definitely empathise with you. And I'm sure if the jelly is hard enough you might even manage to nail it to the wall.
Best of Luck
Sandra Johnson
Thanks for all your great comments. I really believe it's possible to grab the dream if we stick at it. Entering competitions, publishing other shorter pieces and sending work to agents without getting too despondent all help to build confidence, improve our writing skills and harden our skins! I am still awaiting Hilary Johnson's comments on the whole book, so I am holding off submitting again until I hear what she says and can act on it. I hope you have all bought WF and read instalment 2. Get yourselves a plan of action and stick to it, just as I intend to do - and be patient. Sending incomplete or poorly edited novels won't get us there any quicker and will only lead to more rejection, so it's worth taking advice and time to get it as right as it can be. In the next issue in March I am staring right at the very beginning and discussing my opening page, including my prologue which received a lot of comments, both good and bad - the beginning of a book is after all what will either reel the readers (and agents) in or bore them silly. And after that I'm going to work on my synopsis - it's those 2 elements that will make or break my book - and yours. Good luck everyone, and keep writing!
Evening Viv - Love the blog!
Maybe we could share our attempts at writing a synopsis? lol!
I'm writing my first novel (been doing so for seven years); but this is crunch year with two novel writing competitions to enter. The ultimate aim is to start submitting by Jan 2010.
Taking a slightly different tack. I'm getting writer friends to read my opening chapters; join the local writers group first.
Love the column too
Love Stirling.
Yes, I'm all for writers groups - I used to be chairman of mine for 9 years and am still an active member - but they do tend to all be very nice and polite, and some members have not been published themselves so can't always give the right avice. I find you get better feedback - more honest anyway - from strangers. Well-qualified ones, naturally!
Me again,
I just got my first rejection. I feel okay about it but am wondering how to respond. The agent didn't give any feedback as it was a standard form letter rejection so I can only go on my instinct. I'm happy to go back and edit my work again but my gut feeling is that my novel's good but - as I mentioned in my previous post - my letter isn't quite right. Do you have any words of wisdom?
R.W.
Viv
I've read your prologue and only half liked it. I liked best of all the bit that started with him reaching inside the pram. What words went before all that went straight through my head: nothing registered. But the mental picture of a stranger and a babe was different.That did!
I've written and published two books,etc,etc.That's where I stand. May I wish you the best of luck with your project.
Thanks Anonymous - liking half the prologue is better than not liking it at all. It's already very short so I can't cut it much more!
RW - sorry about the rejection. Most agents send a standard unhelpful reply when they don't want your book, but that doesn't mean it's bad! It can take many attempts to get one interested. They may just be busy, full, not looking for your genre or already have something just like yours on their books - lots of reasons unrelated to the quality of your work. The covering letter and synopsis are vitally important. Fail to catch attention and they may never look at your manuscript at all. They are very busy people and you have to grab them within minutes or they will move on to the next in the pile. That's why the April column will be looking at the synopsis in more depth. Unfortunately the covering letter is very personal to you - nobody can tell you exactly what to say. Keep it to less than a page, don't just list a load of previously published stuff. Make it sing! Always include something interesting about yourself - they want an author they can work with and who has marketability! Whatever you do, don't make it just factual and boring. A tiny touch of flattery and showing you have done your research can't do any harm either - why you have chosen that agency etc. Best response is to put it behind you, send to others (a few at a time or it will take years!) and have faith in yourself. Without any reason for rejection given, you have no idea what may need changing, so if you still like it - leave it as it is, and give another agency the chance to snap you up! But do it now.
Hi Viv, I'll be reading your blog with interest.
I've just finished my novel, and I'm about to send out the sample chapters to as many appropriate agents as I can find.
While I'm waiting though, I'm also sending out very simple, screw bound, photo-copied versions of the book to all my friends and family who have expressed even the slightest interest. In this way I hope to find some satisfaction, without the stigma of self publishing.
Good luck,
Jeff
Dear Viv,
Thank you so much for your reply. I'm sticking to my deadline for my second novel, which I'm only days away from finishing now and I'm updating my blog regularly to keep the writing process chugging along and stay positive.
What I don't want to do is to give myself a reason to be distracted and bail on my second book so I've made a list of agents I want to approach and I'll send out a bunch of manuscripts in the second week of Feb, when the book is finished. Now I've made it public, I have to do it!
Thanks again for your helpful words,
R.W.
A question for you all - to help me write a future instalment of the column. What minimum length should a novel be? We all know they can be huge fat blockbusters, but how about the other end of the scale? Too thin a book and readers might feel cheated of their moneysworth, or does the quality of the story matter more? Should I pad out a story just to make it longer, or risk rejection because the industry says it's too short?? Opinions please.
my name is durgesh. i am a final year engineerign student. i have explored a domain which has not been explored by any authors or publishing house till date. and i think its gonna be extremly beneficial too for my readers. i tried contacting publishing houses in india. but unfortunately the rejected my dream of publishing a book. they gave me the reason - i am a first time writer and according to them along with the contents its the author's name too which sells in the market. So they asked me to wait for 5-10 years till the time i establish a name of mine in the industry(professionally) or collaborate my work with anyone who has the name in the corporate world(as the book talks about management issues).I dont know what to do. i cant express the feeling. there are no literary agents in india too(as far as i have searched). all literary agents are in US/UK. I am working since last 8 months on my material, editing my own work again and again.Dont know what to do. Trying to contact another publishers.kindly let me know what should be done?
Novel length: It depends who you speak to. Some people think you can get away with passing 40,000 words off as a novel whereas others say that anything novelish but under 50,000 words is considered a novella. If it's 'literary' enough you can probably make up the rules yourself but for the commercial market, 60,000 is probably a safe starting point (from what I have read.)
R.W.
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com
Hi Viv
I've just read and enjoyed your article in Writers' Forum and your Prologue, which is very well written.
For the moment, I think I'm most comfortable sitting on the fence where Prologues are concerned. My non-fiction published book does not have a Prologue, but a Foreword, which was necessary, I felt. The present novel in progress, which is a Life Into Fiction type (working title: Out Of The Blue), and is my mother's love story, will have to have a Prologue, as so much of it takes place before she meets her lover, both where he and she are concerned - or will it? Although I have written this part, maybe I will take it all out and start where her story really begins.
I can see your dilemma, but I'm sure your novel will succeed in being published, with or
without the Prologue and look forward to reading it.
Best wishes, Verica
Verica - Lots of people are beside you there on that fence! It's a tricky issue. Thanks for reading, and good luck with your own writing too!
RW - Thanks for your thoughts on novel length. Mine currently stands at 66000 words and I am getting strong vibes that it's not going to be enough!! I am gathering advice and opinion before deciding whether to try to pad it out.
Durgesh - Thanks for getting in touch. I'm sorry I can't help you. I am concentrating on fiction only for this Book Deal 'project' of mine and in the blog/column in Writers Forum. I would not have thought that being outside the UK would prevent you from contacting agents or publishers here, but I have to say (sorry to be blunt) that my first reaction has to be that your written English as it appears here is not good enough to be able to write and publish a book in English. Would it not be easier to try to get something published in your own country and native language? Homeland markets are hard enough to crack, but trying to break into the publishing world of a foreign land is going to be even harder for you. Good luck anyway.
keep on struggling
Hi Viv
Me again. Increasingly I'm seeing 90,000-120,000 as a novel guidline but, personally, when I'm being a reader rather than a writer I sometimes pick up a big book and sometimes I prefer a quicker read.
Size isn't everything! I'd much rather read something well put together at 60,000 or less, than something waffly at 120,000 or more. I like reading a book that just eats up the hours. It's horrid when you've got a big feast of a book with loads of saggy bits where you think 'what was that chapter even about? They could have cut the whole thing. That's another hour of my life I'll never see again.' That said, a big beefy book that pulls you in and won't let you go is lots of fun too. Maybe the trick is just to write the story in the number of words it needs and forget the word limit. Did Virginia Woolf lose any sleep over the length of 'Flush?' Probably not.
R.W.
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com
I totally agree, but the experts are telling me otherwise! To be discussed in my column in the May issue, but no matter how good my writing, it looks like I may have no choice but to lengthen. As you say, it would be good if all that mattered was telling the story in the number of words that work for that story - but publishing is very commercial and it's hard to argue if you need to get published.
I checked out an agent's site a couple of days ago and they said they deemed 'full length fiction' to be anything over 75,000, if that helps.
Do they give you any reason for their prefered novel length? Is it down to reader expectation, publisher expectation or something else to do with the publishing process? Also, has the novel length been scaled downwards in recent years? I ask because there seems to be an increasing focus on avoiding adjectives, adverbs etc, weeding out unnecessary words, using an active voice and all the rest of it. Surely this makes novels less wordy so the word limit should go down? Has it? If not, does this mean they're now looking for more plot than they used to?
Please clear up my confusion!
Rebecca
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com
Hi Viv,
I really enjoy your column in Writers Forum and have found it really helpful seeing other people in the same boat as me! I loved your first column, where you talked about your first 3 books - that has really helped me to get on with my own (very first!) novel's second draft. I started writing it after travelling around the states for a while and finished it in 9 months (whilst also working full time). I sent it to a critic/proof reading service who gave me some wonderful advice and encouragement but suggested some re writing. At first I was, to be honest, quite childish about it and thought "well, it's not good enough, so lets forget about it" until my husband got hold of the review and made me read it properly (or should I say, objectively!). I had this wonderful idea in my head that all you had to do was write a book, send it off, it would be published and we'd all live happily ever after, and so when this didn't happen immediately I assumed that all was lost and I should stick to the day job. Your column has helped me to see writing for what it really is - a journey, not a quick fix! I'm happily stuck into draft 2 now and getting great feed back - I'll let you know how it goes! Good luck!
Viv
I just won a Blog of the Day Award! I'm dead chuffed. An article I wrote went down really well and I'm getting lots of invitations to guest blog on other people's sites. Do you have any advice on contracts/agreements as I don't want to lose copyright?
Rebecca
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com
Rebecca- Thanks for getting in touch.I think the need to keep novels long has more to do with commercial reasons than anything else. Printing costs, value for money, selling price - all possibly more important than the quality of the writing I'm afraid. They believe that a short book means a book that looks too small, and readers will therefore not feel they are getting their moneysworth! The subject of novel length is going to be covered in my next column (May issue) so look out for that. As for your request for advice on contracts and copyright - remember I am here to guide writers in their attempts to write and sell a novel, I am no expert in law! But as I understand it, you have copyright automatically as soon as you have written anything (and until 75 years after you die!), and should not part with it lightly - unless you specifically sell your copyright to a publisher - in many cases when dealing with magazines you only sell first serial rights, not copyright. Not sure about novels - if you are lucky enough to get an offer you should read your contract thoroughly to see what rights you are parting with, and get it checked by the Society of Authors if in any doubt. When putting your work on the internet, you are laying it open to easy copying and theft - beware!
Anne- I am so glad the column is inspiring you to go on! That was the idea really - to encourage others and show it like it is. No false hopes, just passion and perseverance, and no guarantee of success. If all else fails, you have achieved something wonderful just in getting to those words THE END. Good luck with your book. I'll race you to a publishing deal. Best wishes
Viv
writing the book is the easy part,
it is how to find an agent, how to send the book off, (I'm told it is to be put on to PDF)
in my grandmothers day, she could write a novel
in her handwriting, send it off to a publisher and if the publishing firm liked it, it was printed. Nowadays, there can be all sorts of errors of grammar and composition, doesn't matter, but for God's sake, don't deliver it anywhere in your own handwriting, or just typed. if it is not on CD or sent PDF, forget it. I have a novel, and a short story book ready for publication, haven't approached either an agent or a publisher, but I have entered one of the short stories in a competition, with hope that it may reach the short list. I am completely computer illiterate, have tried to learn, and I cannot put it down to old age, as many of my friends tell me they have no trouble at all with their machines..............what on earth is URL
it is computer language that floors me. I have stories to tell, another novel in the pipeline, but no knowledge of the nitty gritty of finding an agent or a publisher.
maureen
Oh, dear Maureen - don't despair! Indeed, getting an agent or publisher is in many ways the hardest part, but most certainly don't require PDF or disc. The majority setill wnat submissions in good old paper, and won't even take by email. POD and self publishing deals probably want PDF as they are not going to edit, just print whatever you send, but they are best avoided until you have exhausted the traditional publishing route. Keep reading the column, as we will have lots of advice about improving and then submitting your novel, approaching agents and what they might be looking for, etc. A really good story will still find a home if you persevere. And your computer knowledge can't be too bad as you managed to find, read and post to this blog!
Sorry about the spelling glitches there. No obvious way of editing a post after submitting it! Fingers too fast today!
Thanks for the advice Viv,
I found out a bit more about copyright and also copyright on the internet, which has just become a lot easier to enforce due to people using 'Creative Commons' licences. Even the BBC is getting behind them. Worth a look for anyone considering posting online.
Actually, posting work online is working out quite well for me and I'm getting lots of feedback on my writing now which is great. I don't put any of the work from my novels up. I mainly write informally on my blog then 'blog tour' articles around other sites, which my followers visit and report back. I'm now being approached by people in the writing industry who are interested in my style of writing. Really glad I started blogging. I have to thank you actually because I started after looking on your blog here.
Thanks Viv!
Rebecca
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com
I have about 30 thousand words down on paper so far covering a pretty evenful two years. I really need to find a way of learning how to have it all make sense and keep going to create a small novel of it all.
How does one start?
Chris F
There's really no such thing as a publishable small novel! My next column talks about the rather strict length requirements publishers operate. Self-published - no problem! Then it's any length you like, but it's costly and you would need marketing. To pull your writing together and make a coherent whole - there's nothing better than a good writers group or course, so you get friendship, help, advice, feedback etc from other writers who know what it's like... Check out the website for the NAWG who list many of the groups around the UK, to see if there is one near you. Adult Education evening classes can be fun too - and not too expensive. I know, as I have taught on them for 5 years! Take a look at authonomy.com as well - a free writing community and the chance to share and comment on unpublished work. Working on a novel all alone if you have had no training or experience can be difficult and lonely. I hope that some aspects of the WF column will help you. Whatever happens, Chris -keep at it. Good luck.
I can take some pleasure in achieving a 90,000 worder and since done 55,000 of the follow up (which lies fallow pending feedback on the first). I tried the social network thing and came to the conclusion that, after receiving a few useful pointers and kind advice, writers should not waste any more time writing to the internet and spend the time writing their own stuff. Authonomy is merely a mirror of the industry - a viewable slushpile. Some of the stories on there are scarily good and warrant publishing - oh oh - authonomy sez no! I've started to find the send off - rejection - re-edit thing tiresome and spend more time - and have more fun - writing short stories and sending them off to competitions. How many stories of what length make up a short story compendium? Do I aim for 70,000 words or so?
Some of the people who write in here - I would advise they do some serious homework on characterisation, point of view and all those things that come out in critiques on peer review sites. Perhaps you'd like to suggest some?
PS - from Chris last Anonymous 21 March.
For Where do I start? Someone on Authonomy said "Techniques of the Best Selling Writer" - Dwight V Swain, and I found in Borders Writers section "Characters and viewpoint" by OS Card both useful. Stephen King's On Writing is worth a look.
What is a URL? - for this page - look up - http://bookdealorbust.blogspot.com/2008/12/new etc
Nice to see you are all giving pointers to each other and not just waiting for my advice! Yes, reading some good writing theory and self-help books is a good idea, as are some courses, but there's nothing like practice. The more you write, the better you get - in theory!
Authonomy is indeed another slushpile waiting for Harper collins to pick up the best and publish them, but it's free to upload your book and yours just may be the one to get noticed. In the meantime you do get comments from readers- and all feedback is useful, good or bad. Don't dismiss any avenue that could help you. Getting any book noticed and accepted is a major uphill struggle. As for books of short stories, they are very very hard to get published if you are unknown. The market for them is minimal.
I need a few frustrated authors who have tried the three chapters and synopsis route to no satisfactory end; who are on the verge of self publishing but think there is some stigma attached
Read this link to a USA blog if you think the traditional route is realistic or possible -
http://lighthouse-writing-tips.blogspot.com/
and then join and start a discussion here:
http://lemoncorkscrew.webs.com
Where are you all? No comments at all this month! I hope you have bought a copy of the May issue where I discuss the length of a novel. Is yours too long or too short? And should it really matter? Let me know what you think.
Hi Viv,
To thank you for the assistance you give to all us authors-in-waiting, I'd like to give you an award, it's called the 'Lemonade Stand Award' and it's for a blogger with a good attitude or sense of gratitude. You can pick it and see why I nominated you here.
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com/2009/04/i-won-lemonade-stand-award.html
Congratulations and best of luck with the book.
Rebecca
I went to a novelists group workshop this week, focussing on submission and synopsis procedures, and I learned some interesting tips. Apparently, the first two things an agent looks at in your submission package are the title and your job/what you do in real life! Make sure those are clear and that the title instantly relays the type/genre of book. One delegate said that Losing Lucy could be about anything - maybe a lost dog?! You get no idea from the title that it's a thriller or womens fiction. I must think about that. And - can you summarise your whole novel in just three minutes, and do it with passion? That may be all the time you have if you get to meet an agent at a party, so practice it in advance, just in case! The other important thing so many of us forget about or don't really understand is that your novel should have a theme - very different from a plot. It is usually something that encompasses the over-riding human condition or emotion of your whole story in a simple short phrase (or even a proverb) - like 'It's better to have loved and lost...' or 'you don't know what you've got til it's gone'. I think mine has to be something on the lines of 'you can learn to live with loss, but you can never live with guilt' or 'loss is painful, guilt is unbearable.' What's your novel's theme??
Great points. I'll bear those in mind. Thanks for the info.
self-published my first book, and on to the second, which i fear i may publish myself, again. the publishing indstry isn't so vibrant in my side of town :(
Hi there Isi. I don't think the publishing world is too hot on any side of town at the moment!! Good luck with your books. For the purposes of my WF column, I am avoiding the self-publishing route and going all out to try for a conventional deal, but I have to say things are not looking very promising.
got a rejection from an agent. Ow. Still, am on speaking terms with them - we follow each other on Twitter - so that takes the sting out of it a bit. Have a sense they are actual human beings rather than monsters intent on ruining my life.
Am finding Twitter useful for getting to know publishers - though I doubt that in itself will lead to any kind of deal. Have written a little twitter-quiz for writers attempting to get noticed on Twitter and an article on the dos and don'ts of using twitter to promote written work. Thought you/the readers of your blog might find it interesting/amusing.
http://frombrain2bookshelf.blogspot.com/2009/06/what-kind-of-twitterer-are-you-quiz-for.html
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